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What is going on L&M family.
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I'm back again, this time with Ms Rebecca Davison, who comes all the way from New Zealand.
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She's, of course, this is a virtual thing, but she's in the future, so she's going to help us understand what we need to do to become the promise we're intended to be.
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She's the founder of Intuitive Life Academy.
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She's got massive, massive experience and results in coaching female entrepreneurs, and she's also a podcast host.
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So I got to have my A game on right Because I don't want to let her down of the Intuitive Abundance Podcast, and so I'm going to make you wait to meet her, because I got to give the shout out to our L&M family member out there, and this one goes out to Miss Yesenia.
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Yesenia, I really appreciate you taking the time to leave this comment review thought idea.
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You know how meaningful it is to me.
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And so Yesenia said this book was so much more than I expected, and many stories really resonated with me.
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The one that stuck out the most was story number 20.
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Why can't I see what they see?
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And so, ms Yesenia, thank you for that.
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Cause that that I don't know if you noticed, or probably guessed, as I was telling that story or writing it.
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It brought a lot of emotion.
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It's a really meaningful story and it's in the book.
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In case you're wondering what book she's referencing, it's the Becoming, the Promise You're Intended to Be.
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Folks out there really appreciate y'all taking the time to do the stars and the comments and the sharing and all that thing.
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So please leave me a comment.
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I will be happy to celebrate you on a future podcast and let's get to know Miss Rebecca.
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Miss Rebecca, how are you?
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I'm great.
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Thanks, Jesse.
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So good to be here and share energy with you and have this conversation.
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I'm really excited, oh me too, and also full confession.
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I dragged my heels for what about four or five months to finally get back to you to actually schedule this interview?
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Okay things always happen in perfect timing, right?
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You're extremely gracious and I'm grateful to you for that.
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Thank you for being patient with me, and I'm super glad we were able to make this work, and so I guess let's just get it kicked off.
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What are the fascinating, magical things that people should know about you?
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Oh, that is such a great question.
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I love it, and there's so many different ways to go with that One.
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First and foremost, I'm really tenacious.
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If I set my mind to something, I'm like I'm going to figure it out.
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Even if it looks like it's going to threaten my life, I will figure it out.
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I am really determined.
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I'm like, yes, this is all going to work for me and I sometimes wonder if that's intrinsic, like I've always had that.
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But I'm the kind of person I'm super curious.
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I think curiosity is one of the most underrated values you can have.
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I'm the kid that was always picking up the stones to see what's underneath them, because curiosity takes you a long way.
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At school I had somebody say to me curiosity killed the cat and they didn't know.
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Satisfaction brings it back right.
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This means, in a nutshell you are given this so many gift, skills and talents and you want to be curious about that for yourself.
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What are they?
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Who am I?
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What am I all about?
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Is there really a dragon in a dark cave inside of me?
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Can I go inside and meet it and see what happens?
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So I'm also a Scorpio.
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If anybody does human design, I'm a 6-4 generator, which means that like I love.
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I'm responsive, I generate energy when I come into a room, so I and I love that about myself, right like I want to see everybody happy and successful and for them to know that they have it inside of them.
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And when you're tenacious, it really pays off.
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And I I know already that you are too right, because that's why you end up attracting people who are the same, the same, similar yeah, oh, my goodness, there's so much goodness there.
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Yes, I, I have been accused of being tenacious.
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Most of the time they don't use that word.
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They say I'm obsessive.
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I'm hearing tenacity, I'll go with that a little relentless, over the top sometimes now.
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So you, you mentioned that when you were young, the curiosity was a thing and and it's obvious that you've embraced, you use the, the combination of words, of gifts, skills and talents.
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I feel like we all, at least for me, I've had this set of gifts and talent for a long time, for the majority of my life, but I didn't recognize them as gifts and talents until we'll say this second, this third half of my life.
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So I'm curious in in in your situation, was it ultra clear to you that you, this determination, tenacity and curiosity were those gifts and talents, and that was set a straight line to where you're at today, or what did that look like?
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Is it ever a straight line?
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No, today, or what did that look like?
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Is it ever a straight line?
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Do you know?
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For a straight line?
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I?
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Well, interestingly, like one of the guiding principles in my life, because I've actually.
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I grew up, I was really fortunate.
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I went to some great schools.
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You never really identified with the education system, though I was a rebel.
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At school, that archetype kicked in and I was like nobody's gonna tell me what to do, I'm gonna do it myself.
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And which carried you a long way as a teenager needing to figure out how to do authority and to be in your authority, even though, granted, when you do that, you can lean towards the negative right it's a little bit out of balance, like there's a rebel and then there's extreme rebel.
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But again, that curiosity of what does it look like for me to be the leader in my own life?
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What does it look like to be the person who's taking 100% accountability and, oh my goodness, like learning things?
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Like I'm blaming other people that is not accountability.
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Or I'm judging other people that's not accountability.
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So I think, as we journey, we have to let some things go.
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We have to pick some things up.
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Some of those things are really particular to your humanity, because spirituality, or your spirit, is always traveling light.
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Right, it has everything that it need.
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But for our human, we do need to cultivate certain aspects, and curiosity is definitely one of them.
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Tenacity, and I think people have this already, but they often don't recognize it about themselves.
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So when you're talking about getting to that later stage in life and you're like, oh, actually seeing that it's been there all along, I love that saying you don't need eyes to see, you need vision.
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Oh, yes, you need to be able to see that you have actually always kind of been guided on your path.
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There's always been a part of you that that way, not that way, there's always been and again, if you go that way, you get feedback, then you kill.
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Yeah, so there's always like this guiding force, but I've been always super curious about what is that?
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Is it energy?
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Some people call it god, some people call it universe or energy, whatever you like.
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There's so many different names, but there is a part of you that knows more than your mind and definitely knows more than your now bringing all those pieces together right, so you can actually be in harmony about it.
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Like my mind's on the right page and my emotions have been taken care of, so they're all clean and shiny too, and then it's easy to communicate with my body, body's huge right in terms of telling you whether you're on track or off.
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Yeah, it loves to communicate.
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A lot of people, when they say to me, oh, I'm tired, I will say is that emotional or physical?
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oh it kind of takes me back to when I was a youngling.
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My mom used to come home from working two jobs in night school and the whole thing and it sounds harsh but it was awesome.
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It's like the funniest thing.
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She would say can you guys just let me die for a minute?
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And when we were young, that means leave mom alone, right?
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Sure, it was kind of tough language, but what she meant she is physically exhausted, mentally exhausted, and she was doing home health at the time, so I know that that was an emotional tax on herself, so she was exhausted in all three realms.
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I didn't understand.
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So, like the question you're asking is are you physically, are you spiritually or emotionally or mentally?
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Those are all very significant delineations.
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Yeah, that's something that you just intuitively knew.
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Well, I think, through the process of my own journey, is realizing and let's talk about it because it's really helpful to actually put them in their own channel Like you're muffing oh my God, how many stories does it tell.
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And it's just oh my God, they just keep on coming.
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Sometimes they call my mind Lassie.
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You know how, like you're just sitting there and a thought or an idea comes in and then before you know it, lassie's on a run, like she's jumped over fences, she's in a different country, and you're like I was just sitting here and my mind has just gone zhong.
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And to learn how to master that right To be like, do I want Lassie to be over there, to be able to come back to the here and now and knowing how the mind works, that you're not your thoughts.
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One of the greatest analogies I've ever heard about this is to understand that your thoughts are like the cars that drive past the window and your mind is the observer.
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But if the dog runs into traffic, it's going to get run over.
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So if you identify with your thought, it's going to end up causing you pain.
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You're going to think this is who I am.
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You're the observer of them, so creating space between yourself and the thought.
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I'm sure you've heard that before, but again, understanding, oh yeah, so the thoughts, because a lot of people have real trouble quietening their mind.
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I actually spent about 18 months, you see, just observing the thoughts, and if I didn't like them, I was like like no, you're not allowed here.
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And it was an in-depth process.
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But I'm so grateful that I spent the time to do it, because what I was telling myself is I'm the one in control here, not the thoughts.
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Like I'm the master, not the slave to the thought process.
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And now my mind is pretty blank.
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It is a good thing.
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Like often, my clients will say to me are you teaching us not to think?
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And I'm like yeah, because your thoughts are actually the least powerful part of yourself.
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There's a lot here.
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Like you talked about Lassie running into the other country, well, my Lassie also likes to run into the past and into the future all the time, and other yards and other countries in the middle of the street, and I think I think that's a thing we all, we all kind of have, unless we intentionally work to build the skill to be the observer, to disconnect and, like you said, recognize that I am not my thoughts.
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I am not my thoughts.
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I don't have to react and let them consume me entirely, because that understand, by listening to a podcast or reading a book, right, like it's based in some, it has to be anchored in some significant life events or life lessons.
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Yeah, what were some of those that got you that made it clear to you this is what I need to be doing, I?
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It actually takes me back to a moment when I was on the phone with my mom and I had just come out divorced.
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I had all the trappings, jessie, of a great life, right, I had this beautiful red alpha Romeo in the car, in the garage.
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I owned my own home.
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I had all these beautiful friends.
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I had a great job which was paying well.
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It was kind of like a high status job.
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I worked in banking and I worked for private banks, so I worked for high network clients, but I was miserable and I was making some really dumb and toxic choices in regards to relationships, in regards to drinking, and working in banking is stressful, right, it's very head-based energy.
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So I would get to the end of the day and you know how your mom would be like, oh, just give me a minute to die.
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I would just be like give me two bottles of Chardonnay.
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Like, oh, that wasn't every night, but do you know what I mean?
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Like it was a problem because I wasn't.
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I didn't know how to process my emotions and you'd get the booze blues and I would feel terrible.
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And I was like, and I felt terrible because from the external it looked like I had it all, but internally I was dying and having gone through this divorce, which is a huge reality check, and saying to my mom, I want to live a big life.
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And it was like as I spoke those words, it was like the universe was like I hear you, and I think it was about a week later, a friend of mine sent me a link and was actually to a gratitude log, which is where you would log in every day and express what you were grateful for.
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So I think gratitude is always part of the journey, often at the start, because it's one of the best things that can help you to shift your frequency.
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But there was a scary time and again that really came into the next column, which was the emotions right, like so scared.
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You know humans don't do well with uncertainty.
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We have to learn how to trust our intuition or spirit or that aspect of energy that is bigger than us, like when we're emotionally.
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I was petrified.
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I was like I don't know where I'm going.
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I'm stuck in this job which I don't like.
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I don't.
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I'm stuck in this job which I don't like.
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I don't even like math.
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I used to.
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I used to joke with the client thank goodness they give us calculators because, like it wasn't my thing at school but it was, it offered security.
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It gave me that sense of security like this is safe, right, this is a dependable, regular job.
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You're going to get paid every second Thursday.
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They're a great benefit.
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I've been a lot of time telling you how awesome the bank was and that it became a little.
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You know it's institutionalized like stay here because this is safe and good for you and we'll we'll give you wine on a friday night and we'll give you morning tea on a friday lunchtime.
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Why, whatever?
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And again, you get indoctrinated into thinking that this is the only option.
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But at one time, even though I wasn't really fully fledged and listening to my intuition, they were still part of me that knew this is a really cool lesson.
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Do you see?
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I loved this that nowhere, no matter where you go, that's where you are.
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So it was like my interest was enough to tell me you need to figure it out within this job, which got disestablished, right, like your ego went into orbit.
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But it was like my soul saying your time here is done, but figure it out and be happy here now, because wherever you go, that's who you're going to be.
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You don't want to take this bad attitude or fearful nature into your next experience, because it's not the circumstances, it's your call girl, yes or the bridge I.
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I came across that thing from a different perspective, right, because I was maybe not a different perspective, but I was in a different situation.
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I wrestled with alcohol addiction, alcoholism, self-destructive behavior for a very long time and it was always I need another, different girlfriend.
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I need to be on a different project, different job, different.
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And one of the guys at the group was like Jesse, everywhere you go, there you are, you keep trying to change these things and it's you dummy.
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I'm like oh damn, yeah, you're right.
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Oh, son of a gun.
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Now I got to work on me.
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Well, you sounded like you did pretty well.
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Most people find that really difficult, right?
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It's so confronting to realize, oh it's me, I'm the problem.
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Yes, yes, and I'm the problem.
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Yes, yes, well, and it took.
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I mean, it takes work.
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I want to make sure that Ellen and family or listeners out there are are.
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I guess this sounds really great, like just the gratitude thing.
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That's where I started.
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It's like years, every day, what are you grateful for?
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And I'm like, what are you talking about grateful for?
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Oh, yeah, and the fact that that was my initial response indicated that I was ungrateful and that was the, at that time, that was the source of my misery, because I was blind to all of the gifts, all of the amazing things that I was taking for granted.
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Yeah, and then when I saw like oh, wait a minute, I am, I like there's so many things.
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I had to start off generic, right, I'm grateful I got clean clothes today, because it was such a weird, abnormal practice.
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I'm grateful I got hot coffee today, and then it got.
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I was able to get a little more vulnerable with myself and do that introspection and self-reflection to say, and I'm really grateful that I haven't hurt anybody in the way that I could have, and I'm really grateful that I still have my mental capacity, even though I've killed millions of brain cells.
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I'm grateful that I have relationships with people that should have disowned me, but they're being gracious and being me in their life.
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It's that progression to go from grateful for coffee to grateful for the grace of human beings.
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That was over like two or three years, yeah, we allowed it.
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Yeah, exactly, it's not instantaneous and I totally relate.
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I remember one day kind of rolling my eyes at myself and going I'm just grateful that I've got arms and legs, because some people don't.
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That's all I could find.
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Oh, I know that.
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But also too, isn't it interesting that you and I both got that awareness and did it.
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You know what I mean.
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Like sometimes intuition is giving you the awareness and giving it and you're like not doing it, you're not doing it.
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All right, my self is always do it.
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But the human self is like you know, like procrastination, but realizing, I guess too, when you're down to nothing and you're like holy cow, you start realizing that this is gonna get me out of here, like, maybe not even consciously, maybe more on a deeper level, that if I don't do something, I'm going to end up in a car accident or dead or hurting somebody else or killing somebody else.
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Like something bad is going to happen if I keep on going down this path and it can feel like you're turning like a steamship around.
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Right, it's ooh, but you keep going.
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Oh yeah, completely different, different trajectory.
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Don't know how to do it, never done it before.
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It's terrifying because the path I know is proven, this other path it's not.
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And so, figuring that out now I practice the thinking of I don't need to know all the answers and all the paths that have the answers or the questions answered.
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They're boring.
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I have no interest in them, so I've got to find a new path.
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And the only way I know to do that is by taking the next rightest step and learning from it and moving forward, and learning from it and moving forward.
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And you said something that was so awesome that I want to go back at because it's relative to this idea.
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You said the trappings of a great life and now, in that arrangement of words, the trappings of a great life.
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I've been playing with this thought, or question, great life.
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I've been playing with this thought, that or question how much do I sacrifice, how much joy, fulfillment, sharing my gifts and talents with the world?
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How much of that do I sacrifice for comfort and convenience?
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And for me, that idea of the comfort and convenience falls under the umbrella of trappings of a great life.
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What are your thoughts there?
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This is really interesting.
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I totally get what you're saying because for me, though, when I was in that experience house, car, friend, social life was all about having a party and a good time and wearing beautiful clothes and being seen, whatever.
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It's false economy when you're miserable on the inside, you're drinking because you're miserable.
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Now here's the irony trappings literally it was I was in, it was an imprisonment of my own making, thinking that I have to have these things in order to be seen, to be successful, or look, I am successful, and then kind of being horrified and embarrassed and ashamed that you're not actually happy and then unraveling all of that, which was actually really interesting for me.
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Working in banking and looking at money and how wealthy people did money and what they made it mean in money psychology, learning from that and then going through that process of really being stripped back, the process of authenticity, vulnerability, intimacy.
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All of that is not going to keep you warm at night.
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It is, in fact, is going to make you really cold.
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You're going to be like where is the connection?
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Where is the love?
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The irony is, in my experience, tripping all of that back, but then what you create, abundantly financially, it is from a place of deep satisfaction and fulfillment and you get to experience more abundance.
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In banking, jesse, like my income was capped, I make more time, more than I ever did in banking now, because I would leave in myself yeah but the relationship I have with money is completely different, because that was fear-based and this was purpose-based, but having the courage to let go of it because it's not serving you and like the lifestyle and the identity and how we can get.
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So we're doing it from a place of naivety, really, and then we're like it's not at all but it's not working, and then it's okay.
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What does it look like to create from purpose?
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And something you see before, which is so true is a lot of people overlook how amazing their life already is, often future casting right.
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They're going into the future and going.
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It needs to look different than what it is now, rather than being satisfied with what they've got.
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And both you and I know, in regards to gratitude, that you have to flip that around, because if you're not grateful now, you're not be grateful when you get there and, relatively, gratitude brings it in faster.
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But also to have a relationship with not just money but spirit and your purpose, like you said before, which is unique to you.
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You're going to figure that out for yourself, right?
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You're going to be the one who goes.
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What does it look like for me?
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And this is why I teach people.
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I know I'm an intuition coach, which is more about spirit.
